From Baby Steps to Baby Feeding: Katie Carney on Finding Your Niche in Private Practice

Katie Carney didn't plan to become an infant feeding therapist. She was a pediatric SLP with an early intervention caseload, a new baby, and a nagging feeling that she wanted to work for herself. Then her son was born at 33 weeks, couldn't latch, couldn't breastfeed, and she found herself in the NICU thinking, "I'm a pediatric feeding therapist and I don't know how to help him."

That experience changed everything. It pushed her into a specialty she didn't know she needed and gave her a mission she talks about with obvious conviction.

Katie joined Kadie Jackstadt on Clinic Chats to share how she went from part-time early intervention provider to solo private practice owner in the Chicago suburbs, how she found her niche in feeding therapy, and what reopening looks like in the middle of a pandemic.

Starting With a Safety Net

Katie's leap into private practice was more of a careful sidestep. After graduating from grad school, she worked in a pediatric outpatient clinic alongside OTs and PTs, then moved to a skilled nursing facility for a few years. The whole time, she kept early intervention cases on the side, about six kids a week.

When her daughter was born in October 2016, Katie went on maternity leave and decided not to go back to the SNF. Instead, she became a sole proprietor doing EI work three days a week. She already had experience. She knew the referral pipeline. She knew there was demand.

"I had been doing EI for a while, so I felt comfortable. I knew there was a lot of kids that needed services."

The state EI system gave her a built-in referral source, but the pay wasn't consistent. So after about six months, she formed an LLC, got in network with Blue Cross Blue Shield, and started marketing to local Facebook mom groups. Word of mouth did the rest. Within another six months, she had a steady mix of EI and private practice clients.

Finding a Space Without Overcommitting

For a while, Katie did home visits exclusively. But she kept getting calls from families who lived too far for her to drive to. They wanted to come to her, and she didn't have anywhere to see them.

Her first move was renting a room from a tax agency near her house, one hour at a time, two patients a week. Not ideal for speech therapy, but good enough to test the concept.

Then she found a social worker looking to sublet. The arrangement was perfect: the social worker uses the space three days a week for postpartum counseling, Katie uses it two and a half days. Month-to-month, no year-long lease, kid-friendly setup already in place.

"It's so nice having all my toys and tools in one space. I don't have to lug everything around. And being in one central location, I can see more people."

How a NICU Stay Became a Career Pivot

Katie had been turning down feeding referrals for years because she didn't feel qualified. But she started noticing that many of her speech kids had underlying feeding issues: stuffing food, holding it in their mouths, only eating soft textures. She took courses, started treating those kids, and fell in love with the feeding side of the field.

Then came the NICU. Her son was born premature and couldn't breastfeed. Katie was determined to get him there. She found a local SLP who worked with infants, an IBCLC, and a craniosacral osteopath. She got his tongue and lip ties revised. Within a few weeks of being home, he was breastfeeding.

"I want to help other moms who are stuck in that and they want to breastfeed or even just bottle feed, but they're struggling. It takes too long, that kind of stuff."

That personal experience opened up a whole new patient population. Katie now treats infant feeding alongside her pediatric speech and oral motor caseload, and she's building referral relationships with IBCLCs and pediatricians in the area. She's also added orofacial myology therapy to her services.

Reopening During COVID and the Mask Problem

By the time this episode was recorded in June 2020, Katie had been doing teletherapy since March. Some families responded well. Others struggled, especially when the therapy involves oral motor work that's hard to demonstrate through a screen.

She was planning to reopen her office within two weeks, offering both in-person and teletherapy options. But the logistics were tricky. She ordered a mask with a clear panel so clients could see her mouth. She couldn't find cleaning supplies. And the nature of her work, feeding therapy and oral motor exercises, doesn't exactly pair well with PPE.

"I do so much oral motor. I don't do that much language anymore. So it's going to be interesting."

Her solution: have parents bring in their own tools and food, let parents facilitate more during sessions, and space appointments so no families overlap in the waiting room. With only two and a half days in the office, she couldn't add extra hours even if she wanted to. The scheduling puzzle was real.

Getting Over the Fear of Putting Yourself Out There

When asked what advice she'd give someone considering private practice, Katie kept coming back to fear. Not logistics, not billing, not insurance. Fear.

"Was I smart enough to do this? Did I have enough experience? Would people like me?"

She credits Facebook groups for private practice owners with helping her get past that. She spent months as a "fly on the wall," reading other people's posts, absorbing how they handled the same questions she had. When she finally started marketing herself, it felt awkward. She's not naturally outgoing. But she kept pushing.

"I tend to keep pushing myself to do things outside of my comfort zone. And then you realize, oh, this wasn't so bad."

Her other piece of advice: find a niche. In her early days, she was a general speech-language therapist. Once she found feeding and oral motor work, everything clicked. She had something specific to market, and referrals started finding her.

Katie's honest about the trade-offs. Private practice means writing reports at night after the kids go to bed. It means doing business work on your own time. But it also means choosing when and how that work happens.

"I really think being on my own in private practice, I found the area I'm truly passionate about. Taking courses and learning how to help my clients doesn't even feel like work."

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Transcript

Kadie: You are listening to Clinic Chats. Clinic Chats is a multidisciplinary therapy podcast that was created for students, professionals, clinic directors, and supervisors. Clinic Chats is bridging the gap between graduate programs and professionals, sharing personal journeys of the smallest of private practice startups, large and expanding practices, as well as university clinic triumphs and tribulations. We hope you'll find our podcast informative and helpful in your career endeavors. Clinic Chats is sponsored by ClinicNote, an electronic medical record company for private practice and university clinics. ClinicNote was designed to make scheduling, documentation, report writing, and billing effective, efficient, and HIPAA compliant.

Kadie: Today I would like to welcome Katie Carney, who's the owner of Katie Carney Speech Therapy in the Chicago area. Hi, Katie. Thanks for joining me today.

Katie: Hi. Thanks for having me on.

Kadie: Yeah. I'm excited to hear your private practice journey. And like we spoke a little bit before, maybe you can let us know how you entered the private practice world.

Katie: Sure. So when I graduated from grad school, I took a job in a pediatric outpatient clinic. I was there for a couple of years, and it was great. I had a lot of experience with other disciplines. There was OT, speech, and PT there. So it was nice to collaborate. I also worked with early intervention at that agency. And so I enjoyed it.

Katie: After a few years there, though, I kind of decided I wanted to try something different. So I just wanted to see what area was my true passion. I worked in a skilled nursing facility for a few years. I really enjoyed working with the geriatric population. I enjoyed doing swallowing therapy. So I was there for a few years. But I kind of always had that nagging thing in the back of my head that I wanted to try private practice.

Katie: So when I was in the skilled nursing facility, I had been doing early intervention on the side for a few years. I would see about six kids a week. So I was pregnant, and I went on maternity leave. And after my maternity leave, I kind of decided I wanted to just work for myself. I wanted the flexibility of being able to make my own schedule.

Katie: So I started just doing early intervention as a sole proprietor and just working three days a week. I quit my job at the SNF and kind of jumped in with early intervention. I had already been doing EI for a while, so I felt comfortable. I knew there was a lot of kids that needed services, so I knew that I would have a caseload that I could easily fill. I was home on maternity leave. I had become a mom now. It just seemed like a good time to make a change.

Kadie: Yes. And so you already had a few of your early intervention clients on the side. So did they just take a natural break for your maternity leave, and then you could pick up again with them as well as marketing yourself to new clients after that?

Katie: Actually, with EI, I just gave them back to the service coordinator, and they found them new therapists. That's how with early intervention in Illinois, when you're taking an extended period of time, you try to give them back and find them new therapists. Most of my kids, I think they were able to place with a new therapist. Maybe one or two came back to me after my leave, but I think the majority, I just got a new caseload. And where I'm at, there's just a huge need for speech therapists in EI, so it isn't hard to build a caseload.

Kadie: Oh, that's great. You pretty much just tell them that you are providing services, and they call you. They have a lot of cases that need it, so it isn't hard to build a caseload. So is that where the bulk of your clients came from, then, whenever you began?

Katie: Yeah. So the very beginning, I pretty much was all early intervention. And then the state, it just wasn't a consistent pay, though. It wasn't consistent. So I wasn't having consistent income, which was kind of difficult.

Katie: So I decided that I needed to find some of my own private kids that I could at least bill their insurance, or if they were private pay, just to have some kind of more consistent, steady income that way. I did end up marketing just to local Facebook group mom groups. I was in network with Blue Cross Blue Shield because of early intervention. I just let people know I could bill their insurance. And I had a few people who aged out of EI that stayed on with me, and then word of mouth got me a pretty decent caseload of just kind of half EI, half private practice kids.

Kadie: That's great. And when was this, as far as timeline?

Katie: So this was, my daughter was born in October of 2016, so I think I went back to work in January of 2017 is when I started.

Kadie: And then over how long do you think before you built to the numbers where you were happy with?

Katie: I would say I probably did EI, maybe just exclusively EI, for probably about six months. And then once I formed my LLC and started marketing a little bit more consistently, I would say probably another six months, maybe. And I only worked part time. Back then I was doing home visits, so I had to have driving time in between. So I didn't have a huge caseload because I didn't really want a huge caseload just for time constraints.

Kadie: And so now you have an in-person office location?

Katie: Yeah. So in August of 2019, I was getting a lot of calls for people who lived just far from me that wanted services, and I just couldn't drive that far. So they were asking if they could come to me, and I was like, I don't have anywhere.

Katie: So I kind of started looking around, and there was this tax agency right near my house. They were offering hourly, you could rent it for an hour at a time. So I just started renting from them just to see two patients a week. The space wasn't ideal for speech therapy, but it worked out well for me to see if this is what I wanted to do.

Katie: Then luckily, just through talking to someone, I heard about a social worker in the area who was looking to sublet her place. I met with her, and she only works part time as well. She's there three days a week, and I'm there two and a half days a week. I've been there since last August, and it's been working out really well. I just pay month to month to her, so I didn't have to sign a whole year lease, which I was nervous about. It was nice to just get my feet wet and see how having an office space would be.

Kadie: That's very nice. And do you like it so far?

Katie: Yeah, it's been great so far. It's so nice having all of my toys and tools in one space. I don't have to lug everything around. And I just feel like being in one central location, I could see more people. I'm not driving all over the town, trying to get to people's houses. I can see more clients in a day, which is nice.

Kadie: And is that social worker, it sounds like you guys share the space, has that worked out okay?

Katie: Yeah, actually it has. She's a social worker therapist, so she actually does a lot of counseling with new moms, postpartum moms, and that kind of stuff. Her space is set up because she has moms that come in with babies and stuff. So it's set up to be kid friendly in a way. It has actually worked out really well.

Kadie: That's good. So I'm sure she doesn't mind the extra toys or games.

Katie: She doesn't, which is nice.

Kadie: So what would you say from that first year, first getting your feet off the ground, what was the hardest part in opening your own business?

Katie: I think just more my own fears. I was just insecure, like, was I smart enough to do this? Did I have enough experience? Would people like me? Kind of just having to put yourself out there. And then if you can't build a caseload, then you feel like, oh my God, I wasn't being a good therapist. So I think just my own insecurities.

Katie: I think the fact that I had done EI on my own for a little while, just on the side, helped that I had already had my feet wet. I belonged to a couple of Facebook groups of private practice owners, and that really helped just to read everyone's posts and see how people were doing it. So I had an idea of what to do.

Kadie: Right. Do you think that, you know, it sounds like primarily you're a pretty young population that you treat. Do you take any older children or adults still?

Katie: When I first started doing early intervention, I was just doing speech and language mainly. And I would get feeding referrals and I was like, oh, I don't know if I can do feeding. So I would never take them. But then I noticed some of my speech kids had underlying feeding issues going on.

Katie: So I started just taking a lot of courses, reading as much as I could. I learned as much as I could about feeding therapy and started treating the kids on my caseload that were there for speech. But I also saw some feeding issues and they made great progress. And I just fell in love with the feeding area of speech therapy.

Kadie: Tell me a little bit about some of the common feeding issues that you ran into with kids who are already there for speech.

Katie: So I feel like a lot of my kids, the parents would be like, oh, they're picky eaters. They stuff food in their mouth. They hold it in their mouth. They only really eat soft foods. It's kind of the same characteristics over and over again. And as I started taking courses and realized, yeah, they're not lateralizing their food. They're not chewing on their molars. They're a picky eater because they don't have the oral motor skills to eat more advanced textures.

Katie: So I was doing just kind of like 12 months onward feeding therapy. And I didn't do any infant at that time. And then my own son was born at 33 weeks. He was a preemie and he had a lot of infant feeding issues. He couldn't latch, couldn't breastfeed.

Katie: I remember just being in the NICU being like, I don't know how to help him. And I'm a pediatric feeding therapist and I don't know how to help him because I had never done the infant side of things. So his experience, my experience with him, pushed me then into, I wanted to find out more about infant feeding therapy.

Katie: I feel like it's kind of an unknown area that we can treat infant feeding therapy, working with breast and bottle feeding. When we left the hospital, he was only still on bottles. He couldn't breastfeed at that point. And I was determined to get him breastfeeding. I knew enough that there were people in my area, another local speech therapist who worked with infants and I knew of an IBCLC and a cranio osteopath. So I was able to get him the help he needed. He also had tongue and lip ties, so I was able to get those revised and I was able to get him breastfeeding again after a few weeks of being home.

Kadie: Good for you.

Katie: Yeah. So it was great. I just feel like that experience, I want to help other moms who are stuck in that and they want to breastfeed or even just bottle feed, but they're struggling to bottle feed their baby. It takes too long, that kind of stuff. So I've kind of gone into the infant world now since having my son as well.

Kadie: That's great. So has word of mouth helped you to expand on that aspect of the business as well?

Katie: Yeah, I feel like I'm slowly getting more and more infant cases. I feel like I just need to market myself better. Before COVID hit, I was scheduled to go talk at a breastfeeding class and then COVID came so that obviously was canceled. But I just feel like there isn't a whole lot of knowledge that we could treat this area and that there is actual dysfunction in the baby's mouth. It's just not mom's breast or how the baby's positioned. There can be other oral motor issues going on that need to be addressed to help the baby successfully feed.

Kadie: Oh my goodness. Yes. I feel like there's so much misinformation out there, so many people could benefit. Amazing that you've kind of steered your business, you know, while still treating speech and language, I'm sure, but expanding to your own interests. That's amazing. Do you have a specific IBCLC that you refer to or kind of work with?

Katie: Yeah, I do have one that I recently met with maybe like six months ago. I was looking for one in the area that did private practice and I did find one in my area that does. So I've met with her and she seems great. I have referred patients I'm seeing to her because again, it's like I can treat the infant if they're having underlying oral motor issues, but I don't know the whole breastfeeding side. I'm not good with positioning and latching and all that stuff from the mom's side of things. That's when the IBCLC is crucial to the team as well.

Kadie: Yeah, absolutely. And as far as tongue and lip tie, as you continue to grow and see more and more infant feeding cases, I imagine that will continue to come into play. Do you have a provider you refer to?

Katie: Yeah, there's a couple in my area, which is nice because I'm near Chicago, so there's a few in my area that I can refer to, which is helpful because I know some of the more rural areas, it's harder to find these providers.

Kadie: So as far as marketing yourself, you mentioned the Facebook groups. Now in my specific area, the local mom's groups are so tight on restricting for advertising yourself. Have you come across the same situation?

Katie: Luckily by me, they allow advertising one day a week. So you can post one day a week of your business. That is nice because it's just one day a week that they allow it. So that is helpful that you can post.

Kadie: That's very nice. And have you gotten referrals directly from that source?

Katie: Yeah, I have gotten a few from there. I feel like just previous patients will refer. I am starting to market more to pediatricians' offices. Just reach out to more of the IBCLCs in the area and let them know that I'm here and I can provide these services.

Katie: And just even since this whole COVID thing hit, I was home the first two weeks and was like, what am I going to do? I wasn't seeing patients yet on teletherapy. So I started just making social media graphics for parents that I'm posting on my page just to help them understand, like if breastfeeding isn't going right, this is what could be going on. Just educate moms to look at their own child and see what could be going wrong so that they know where to reach for help and that they could be more educated on what actually is going on. I've been trying to do that as a way just to let people know that these services are available to them.

Kadie: Well, that's kind of nice. Maybe it was a time where you could get ahead of some of those marketing visuals where no one has time to make those normally.

Katie: Exactly.

Kadie: Did you make them so you can reuse them, not just for COVID?

Katie: Oh, yeah. They're not COVID related.

Kadie: Oh, good.

Katie: They're just on my Facebook page just because I was sitting at home being bored and I was like, I need to do something productive and I've been wanting to do this for a long time. So you gave me the free time to do it.

Kadie: And whenever you approach pediatricians, you spoke that you have your own daughter. So I'm sure that particular pediatrician was easy to talk to, but do you find a specific approach works best when engaging with other pediatricians? Is it difficult?

Katie: I feel like some pediatricians are more open than others to kind of having to hear what you have to say. I feel like going back a few times where they hear your name more often or dropping off things repeatedly where they kind of start seeing your name more often. And I think whenever I have a patient, I always will send the reports to the pediatrician with a little flyer about the services I offer. So they come to respect those and know your work. And then if the mom says, oh, yeah, they're doing great in speech therapy with her, I feel like that helps the pediatrician too to realize that I'm a reliable provider that's providing good services.

Kadie: Your business name, I noticed, is your specific name. So do you like and plan to stay by yourself? Are you happy with that? Or do you want to eventually expand?

Katie: When I was first starting out, I just could not think of a name. I didn't know what I wanted to do. So I just went with my name. As of right now, I'm happy with just doing it myself. I feel like the added stress of having to manage someone, I don't think I'd want to do that right now. I have two small children of my own. Maybe down the line when my kids are older and I have a little bit more free time to focus on that, I would look into hiring someone else.

Katie: And I do feel like probably as people get more aware of the oral motor, infant feeding, I'm doing orofacial myology therapy now. When my wait list gets big, then that may force me to look into hiring someone as well.

Kadie: Yeah. It's a hard step. I think it would still work just fine under your own name.

Katie: Yeah. Exactly.

Kadie: Are there any words of advice that you would give someone who's in the same boat as you, wanting to start by themselves as a sole proprietor? What steps were those initial thoughts?

Katie: I think I kind of went into it very, like I took a lot of baby steps. I first joined the Facebook groups and read some books and was kind of like a fly on the wall in these Facebook groups, seeing what people were doing. I did the EI on the side and then I slowly just did it. And I feel like working for EI kind of felt more safe than just totally being on my own because I still was getting referrals from the state. So baby steps was what worked well for me.

Katie: And I think another piece of advice too, I feel like having a niche area now that in the beginning when I first started, I did not really have a niche. I just was general speech language. So I think that when I found my passion, I think that helps too, because you can market your specific area that you do and then people know that you do this area and they'll refer to you. So I think having a niche area is helpful as well.

Katie: And I think the biggest thing is, if you're really serious about it, I think just getting over your own fear. I know that was the biggest thing of mine was just getting over my own fear of judgment from others or that I wouldn't succeed and that kind of stuff.

Kadie: Yes. And so it sounds like you post on your own Facebook site or website. Was there a hump of getting comfortable doing that? Marketing your own service is definitely hard.

Katie: It is. I'm more of a kind of quiet person. I'm not super outgoing. So I feel like it is hard. You feel awkward at first. Sometimes I still feel awkward posting stuff. But I feel like I just keep pushing myself to do things that are outside of my comfort zone.

Katie: Like I had recorded a podcast probably like a year and a half ago when I was more newer to private practice and I was so nervous about doing that. But I tend to keep pushing myself to do these new things and it forces you outside of your comfort zone. I feel like things don't seem as scary when you do them. You're like, oh, that was no big deal. I could totally do that. I think you kind of have to push yourself and then you'll realize, this wasn't so bad. I could do this.

Kadie: Absolutely. And you being in Chicago and I'm in Southern Illinois, I'm aware of everything that's going on with our state and obviously across the whole country. Our state might be one of the last to attempt any sort of reopening. So I'm curious, after some time off, what therapy is going to look like in your office now?

Katie: So I've been doing teletherapy since probably the end of March, which has been going well. A lot of my families, the kids have responded well and it's been going good. But I think there are some families that it's just hard to do teletherapy and some types of therapy that are hard to do obviously over the computer.

Katie: So I am looking to start back up within the next two weeks probably, probably by mid-June. But it's going to be interesting. I have some families that want to stay on teletherapy and that's totally fine. I'm going to offer both services, in office or teletherapy.

Katie: Going back into the office, I'm still kind of trying to figure it out. I ordered one of those masks with the clear little piece in front so you could see my lips, but I do so much oral motor. My main case is oral motor speech and feeding. I don't do that much language anymore. So it's going to be interesting. I've looked into the face shields. As of right now, I think I'm just going to stick with the mask with the clear thing and hopefully that will go well.

Katie: Even just trying to gather up all the cleaning supplies, I'm having a hard time just finding the cleaning supplies that I need to get back into my office. I think a lot of families are very eager to get back into office and it will be good. I think it's just going to be a little nerve wracking the first week or so trying to figure out how I'm going to make sure everything is sanitized properly and how I'm going to work with a mask on. I'm looking forward to getting back in the office. Hopefully things will go smoothly.

Kadie: I hope so too for you and all of the private practice owners and professionals out there. But it sounds like you will be able to wear a mask and they'll be able to see your mouth. But is there a fear on your end as far as, the kids are obviously not going to wear a mask? You have to be seeing their mouth.

Katie: I know. I'm going to leave it up to the parents' discretion because I feel like I know they want kids over the age of two to wear a mask. So I think I'm going to let the parents have the decision there since I'm the only one in my office. It's just one room, a small waiting room and then one treatment room. So it's not going to put anyone else in there when I'm treating.

Katie: I'm going to kind of leave it up to the parents and see what they're comfortable with. If they prefer their child to wear a mask, then yes, they can. But if not, then that's okay too. And I'm going to be sanitizing in between and all that stuff.

Kadie: Yeah. Because I couldn't imagine doing speech and feeding therapy with a mask on.

Katie: I mean, to eat, you're going to have to remove the mask. Exactly. And I know some people too have been having just the parents kind of facilitate more in the session. So if you're doing feeding therapy, actually having the parents help the child with the food or with whatever tools you're using.

Kadie: Hey, that sounds nice. You wipe their face.

Katie: Yes, exactly. And I use oral motor tools in my sessions. So I'm just going to have parents bring in what we need to use in a session instead of the risk of me sanitizing things. I'm going to do that for a while too.

Kadie: That's a great idea. Will you have to revamp your schedule or do you think it will kind of be like, okay, we get to resume at your normal time and hopefully it'll just be semi-straightforward?

Katie: That'll be interesting because now it's summer. So I feel like a lot of people love to change their schedules in the summer anyways to earlier times. I think my caseload isn't that big right now. I still had one day of early intervention that I was doing and then two days of private kids in the office. So my early intervention kids are going to stay teletherapy for right now until the state changes that.

Katie: I think I'm going to let parents decide if they want to change their time. But I know I'm going to have to space things out. I had kids back to back before all of this and then I would take a break after like four kids or something. But obviously now I'm going to have space in between so that I can sanitize and that people aren't meeting together in the waiting room. So I'll have to space out a little bit of time in between my sessions as well.

Kadie: Exactly. And that's kind of a bummer. I mean, I know everyone's going through it, but when you used to be able to go back to back, that's decreasing your time away from home where now I think all professionals are going to experience that, work longer and see less people.

Katie: I'm only able to get in there two and a half days a week because the other lady I sublet from, she's in there. So I don't have the luxury of adding an extra day. I really can't because I don't have that option. So I'm going to have to figure out how to squeeze it in.

Kadie: Well, is there any last words of advice you'd like to give people? I loved hearing your story and it sounds like you've found the perfect fit for you and your family at this time.

Katie: I mean, I think private practice, if you're thinking about it, it's definitely the way to go. It's hard work and I feel like I do a lot of work for my business, but I do the work when I want to. If I have a report I have to write, I could write it at night when my kids go to bed. I don't have to be away from them during the day to get the work done, which I love that flexibility.

Katie: And I really think being on my own in private practice, I found the area that I'm really, truly passionate about. And if I had been working for someone else, just as a general therapist, I don't know if I would have really found my passion. I don't know if I would have come across this.

Katie: I just love learning and I'm always taking courses because I feel like I'm just so interested in this area of speech therapy. Taking courses and learning how to help my clients, it doesn't even feel like work. I actually just truly enjoy doing that. So I feel like even though there is more work to do, I enjoy the majority of the work.

Kadie: Well, thank you, Katie, for your time and for sharing your story. I appreciated you coming on.

Katie: Yeah. Thank you very much for having me.

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