Building a Reading Specialty When Nobody Expects It From an SLP

Most parents don't call a speech pathologist when their kid struggles with reading. They call a tutor. Maybe they talk to the school. But a speech-language pathologist? It doesn't even cross their minds.

Maggie Block knew that going in. She also knew that SLPs are uniquely qualified to treat reading and dyslexia, and that the public schools where she'd been working weren't letting her do that work. So she left, started Metro East Therapy in Edwardsville, Illinois, and spent the next three and a half years proving that a private practice built around reading could actually thrive.

Her story on Clinic Chats is equal parts patience and conviction. And it's a case study in what happens when you commit to a niche before the market fully understands it.

You Can't Fill a Caseload With a Specialty Nobody Knows You Offer

When Maggie first opened her doors, she couldn't just hang a sign that said "reading specialist" and wait for referrals. Most families in her area didn't associate speech pathologists with reading intervention at all. So she took the pragmatic route: she accepted every client who walked in.

"I took on lots of clients that were just the traditional, you know, four-year-old with articulation difficulties. I had, I took on some stuttering clients. There was a wide variety of clients that I took on because for me, it was just important to get clients in the door and simultaneously sort of advertise that I was able to work on reading with children."

It took about a year and a half, maybe two years, before her reading caseload was large enough to start transitioning other clients to her staff. And it wasn't until roughly nine months before this episode that she felt her caseload was exclusively reading patients.

That's a long runway. But it worked because she was educating the community the whole time, building trust while building demand.

When Clients Only Want You (and You Need Them to Trust Your Team)

Growing beyond a solo caseload creates a predictable problem: you're the face of the business, and families want you specifically. Maggie ran into this head-on, especially as she prepared for maternity leave at 37 weeks pregnant.

"I'm the face of Metro East Therapy. If you go on my website, there's videos of just me. Up until recently, I was the person who always answered the phone."

Her solution was methodical. She started prepping families six months out. She spoke highly (and specifically) about her colleagues' skills. And she leaned into something bigger: educating parents that every speech therapist in her office had the training to work on reading and dyslexia, not just her.

By the time she recorded this episode, she had four SLPs and three occupational therapists on staff. Two of her speech pathologists (former students of hers) were already diagnosing dyslexia independently. Another was developing a specialty in apraxia, and one had taken on AAC, an area Maggie herself freely admits she's not comfortable with.

"I want them to be resident experts in the community. They recognize that they need to be diversified, but they also recognize that I want them to find an area that they're passionate about."

That's how you scale a specialty practice without diluting it.

Surviving an IRS Audit and a Bad Partnership

Maggie doesn't shy away from the hard stuff. Two moments stand out as her biggest professional struggles.

First: a partnership that looked good on paper but failed in practice. She tried to join forces with another office that shared her passion for reading. Her gut told her it wasn't a great fit. She went ahead anyway. Personality conflicts surfaced, business complications followed, and she had to clean up the mess.

"I'm grateful for the lesson because I took away a lot from it. But I just have to say that was probably, to date, one of the biggest stressors that I probably had."

Second: an IRS audit. Two and a half years into her business. She passed without a single infraction, but only because she'd invested in a solid bookkeeper and accountant from the start. She could hand everything over because her electronic medical records and financials were in order.

Her advice is blunt: "You really do have to be a good record keeper because you do not want to be caught in a position where they ask for something and you don't have it."

The Private Pay Reality (and Why Reimbursement Rates Matter)

Metro East Therapy is in network with exactly one insurance company. Maggie tried to get on other panels, but several networks were closed. One she'd been on, she dropped because the reimbursement was too low to sustain.

"The humanitarian side of me doesn't want to turn anybody away based on pay. But the business side says, no, you can't be losing money because nobody could successfully run a business doing that."

She's fortunate to practice in a more affluent area where families can afford private practice rates. And she's gotten more comfortable over time having the rate conversation with new families. But she doesn't sugarcoat the discomfort of those early calls.

She also purchased the building her practice operates out of, a move that cut her costs compared to the steep commercial rents in her area. With four treatment rooms, billing handled by a dedicated admin, and a growing team, space (not demand) is now her biggest constraint.

Finding Your People Before You Need Them

Maggie closes with advice that goes deeper than most business tips. She talks about understanding your own relationship with money, because for her, money represents security. When she's anxious, she's learned to pause, figure out the real source, and talk herself through it.

And she borrows from Brene Brown: "If you're not in the arena getting your you-know-what kicked, then I'm not interested in your feedback."

Find mentors who are actually in the fight. Business mentors. Financial mentors. And someone who's just there when you're having a meltdown. For Maggie, that's her husband.

"Those are two things that I think are really important before you start up a business."

She doesn't pretend it's easy. She just makes the case that it's worth it.

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Transcript

Kadie: You are listening to Clinic Chats, the speech therapist's private practice podcast, a podcast full of personal journeys where we will not only talk about success stories, but also real life struggles of small business startups. Clinic Chats is sponsored by ClinicNote, a HIPAA-compliant, cloud-based EMR platform used specifically by private practice owners and university clinics. I'm your host, Kadie Jackstadt, and this is Episode 2.

Kadie: Hi to all of our listeners. Today, I'm speaking to Maggie Block, the owner of Metro East Therapy in Edwardsville, Illinois. I cannot wait to hear all about your journey through private practice.

Maggie: Hi, everyone. I am really honored to be asked to be on this podcast, and I'm really looking forward to sharing some of my personal stories that I have, some of the trials and tribulations that I'm sure a lot of people can relate to.

Kadie: Yeah, and I appreciate you joining me today. Just a little bit of background for our listeners. Maggie's private practice is in the same town that I live in, so I'm very familiar with her business, her growth over the years, and her specialty. So I'd like to start because I do think that you have been very successful in finding your specialty for our area. So tell me a little bit about that area and how that has developed over the years.

Maggie: The area that I'm most passionate about is reading, specifically dyslexia. And, you know, when I originally wanted to be a speech pathologist, I knew that I wanted to work on reading with kids, which is such a big part of what speech pathologists do. I worked in the schools for several years, but unfortunately, not always do speech pathologists get utilized in the capacity that I biasly think that they should when it comes to reading. And so ultimately, I decided that I needed to probably leave the schools and kind of do my own thing so I could really focus on what it was that I wanted to focus on. And I sort of, you know, intuitively thought there was a market for it. And that definitely has proven to be true.

Kadie: Yes, absolutely. I see Maggie recommended on all of our local Facebook groups for reading specialization. And I will vouch that as a speech pathologist I never felt comfortable treating reading. I just never felt like I had the proper training. And then that was kind of put on the back burner when the district I was in didn't really view a speech pathologist as necessary for that treatment. So yeah, I will say that's my biggest weakness and probably your biggest strength.

Kadie: So as your practice grew, did you from the start only accept reading patients or was it something that you advertise yourself in, but you were open to all disorders and diagnoses?

Maggie: Yeah. And we, I still have other speech pathologists in my office that work in other areas of speech and language, sort of more of the traditional role of a speech language pathologist. And when I first started, I accepted many, many clients because it has been a journey for me to educate the public on what skill set I have as a speech pathologist, because most people don't think to turn to a speech pathologist when it comes to their child struggling in reading.

Maggie: And so while I was trying to develop and acquire my ideal clients, I took on lots of clients that were just the traditional, you know, four-year-old with articulation difficulties. I had, I took on some stuttering clients. There was a wide variety of clients that I took on because for me, it was just important to get clients in the door and simultaneously sort of advertise that I was able to work on reading with children.

Kadie: And at what point as you were growing your practice, do you think that you fully were capable of saying, okay, I'm seeing reading patients? Because I believe you are primarily working with only that caseload. And then you were at what point able to say, I'm going to assign you another therapist?

Maggie: I think it was probably, gosh, probably a year and a half into it, maybe even two years into it. And I'm probably about three and a half years into it. So I would say within the last nine, nine-ish months have I really felt like my caseload was just exclusively reading clients. Prior to that, I kind of, you know, fizzled those clients out as they would come in and dish them off. But it took a little bit of time. It wasn't an overnight thing, you know, whatsoever. It definitely took time to do that.

Kadie: Yes. And have you had any, I guess, pushback because your name was established first? And so if a new client calls and you say, hey, I'm going to put you with so-and-so instead, are they ever hesitant and say, well, wait, I heard you were the best?

Maggie: Yes, absolutely. And that I think is what is so, I think a lot of private practitioners run into that. That happens. I'm the face of Metro East Therapy. If you go on my website, there's videos on my website of just me. Up until recently, I was the person who always answered the phone. And so a lot of times parents either would specifically want to work with me or because I was the person that answered the phone, they just felt most comfortable with me.

Maggie: And so I have really had to work hard on speaking very highly of my colleagues, which is not difficult to do because they're wonderful, wonderful therapists. But that also, I think, is part of educating the public on the role of the speech pathologist. So while I particularly am passionate about reading and dyslexia, every speech pathologist in my office has the skill set that they need to work with the child who's struggling with reading. And that's part of the education that comes in is that they don't think that it's just me doing it, but they realize that there's a staff of people in my office that are equipped to be able to work on reading.

Maggie: But it absolutely happens and it makes it difficult, particularly at this time in my life, because I'm getting ready to start a family and I'm going to be stepping away a little bit. And so it makes me feel a little bit vulnerable. But I know that the other therapists in my office are so fantastic that in a matter of time, they're going to be receiving just as many referrals as I've received over the years.

Kadie: And I'm sure that has been very, you know, just a bit challenging, like you said, reassuring your families. They get so attached so quickly. But if you trust your staff and you can highly recommend them, I'm sure you are able to let your patients know how great treatment would continue to be.

Maggie: And as long as you communicate with your families, you don't, you know, drop it on their lap last minute. I was prepping families for this within the last six months, just giving them a heads up. I'm going to be taking a little bit of a leave. I'm still available and accessible but in a different capacity. I have wonderful therapists here. I have a wonderful therapist who's taking over my caseload. She's fantastic. I mean, all of those, the groundwork for that had to be laid months and months and months in advance. And so I'm really fortunate that all of my families have been absolutely fantastic when it comes to that transition that we're going through right now. But I think maybe even for me, it's been a little bit unnerving. But luckily, it's all falling into place.

Kadie: And how many therapists do you have working underneath you right now? And then can you tell me a little bit about each of their specialty that they're starting to develop?

Maggie: Sure. So I have three occupational therapists, which I think most speech pathologists would agree that there's such a close relationship that speech pathologists and occupational therapists have because so much of what we do, those disciplines cross over. And so I have three occupational therapists and I have currently four speech language pathologists.

Maggie: And they all, I will say that they all have demonstrated interest in really enhancing their reading skills because so many of the kids that we see with phonological disorders that are, you know, four go into kindergarten and are now struggling with reading. And so they have all, you know, sort of stepped up to the plate when it comes to that.

Maggie: I have two girls in particular that were actually two former students of mine that have really taken the bull by the horn when it comes to reading and dyslexia. And they're actually doing evaluations and diagnosing at this point comfortably. And then my other two therapists, one in particular is really interested in apraxia of speech. And then I have another really awesome therapist who really loves AAC.

Maggie: And that personally is not an area that I am comfortable with at all. I really don't know much about it. And she has really just kind of dove into that and has so much knowledge of different software and how to implement some of that software that I'm really excited to be able to confidently say to the community now that we have someone who can really focus on AAC because there is a market for that in our area. And it was just not something that I was ever comfortable with.

Kadie: Oh, yeah, there definitely is. And I just think it's great that not only are your therapists taking on your passion and specialty, but also finding their own as well, which the wide variety is exactly what the community needs because there's so many levels and differences in each and every patient diagnosis.

Maggie: There is. And I think for me, the biggest thing with my office that I have always tried to convey to my therapists, and I think that they do a wonderful job of it, is I want them to be resident experts in the community. And so they recognize that they need to be diversified, but they also recognize that I want them to find an area that they're passionate about. And I want them to really, you know, focus in on that because I think that when parents think private services, that's what they're looking for. It's a little bit different than therapy that's going on in the school. But that was something that has always been really important to me in my office.

Kadie: Yes. And can you tell me, looking back over the past three, three and a half years, what has been a moment of greatest struggle?

Maggie: So there's daily struggles, of course. And at the time, they feel like big struggles, and then you overcome them. But there was one particular instance where I was looking to partner with another office in the area. And we both had a shared passion for reading. She was wanting to give up the business side of things, but still wanting to work. And so we were going to sort of join forces.

Maggie: And there were, I guess to make a long story short, personality conflicts. I guess I should have went with my gut. And my gut was saying it probably wasn't going to be a good fit. But I still kind of went with it. And it just didn't work out. And I think it caused a lot of heartache. I think is probably the best word to use. And there were some things that I had to clean up on the business side of things because of it. So I'm grateful for the lesson because I took away a lot from it, but I just have to say that was probably, to date, one of the biggest stressors that I probably had.

Maggie: And then, you know, something else that I'll share is that I was one of the lucky small businesses that was audited by the IRS. And I can happily say that I passed without any infractions, anything. It was a very long process though. And I think that's why it's really important to have a really solid bookkeeper and accountant because I did. And so I was able just to sort of hand everything over because all of that, I have somebody do for me. But I think to myself, if I had been doing that on my own, that would probably would have been a lot more stressful.

Kadie: Wow. Well, like you said, it is, I know that you're organized and you have these people, you know, helping you on the business side of things to reassure your mind. But still, when you get that first call, I cannot imagine.

Maggie: Your heart drops. Of course, you always know that there's a chance that that's going to happen, but you just don't expect for it to happen two, two and a half years into your business. So yeah, it was a very nerve-wracking process. And I'm just really grateful that I had somebody, you know, behind the scenes who had done all of the accounting and bookkeeping for me. So I was just able to turn things over. But that is also a really good lesson for anybody that's listening that it can happen. And so you really do have to be a good record keeper because you do not want to be caught in a position where they ask for something and you don't have it.

Kadie: Yes. And those struggles kind of lead me to my next question. What, this is no pressure or plug for ClinicNote because Maggie doesn't use ClinicNote and that is A-OK. We love to hear what's working for everyone. What is your system currently? You mentioned that you have someone doing your billing. What does that look like for your practice?

Maggie: So, you know, when I very first started, my dad did all of my billing for me and he does not have a background in insurance or billing or anything like that. And so we were able to sustain that for a really good period of time. But then after a while, I decided that although I loved him, that he was, you know, working for free for me, that it was probably taking a lot of time away from him. He retired and probably didn't need to be doing that.

Maggie: So I did hire, I guess you could call her an administrative assistant, but to me she's like my lifeline. And so she does all of my billing for me. And we just, we currently use Availity because it's free. We have, as far as like the record keeping and things of that nature, we probably are behind the times with that because we don't have an EMR system that we use. So everyone is using their laptop computers. I can't say that I would recommend doing what we're doing. I know there's better ways out there to do it.

Kadie: Maybe as you grow and grow, that's something that you're going to look into. But I'll put on my sales hat with you later. We don't have to talk ClinicNote right now. So jumping over, diving into the insurance topic, how many insurances do you currently accept as an in-network provider? And how did you decide upon those particular insurances?

Maggie: So I think that when you first start out in private practice, you are under the impression that no one is going to pay for private services and that you have to be in network with every insurance panel under the moon. And that probably, you know, that is true depending on where you're located. If you're in a lower income area where the median household can't support private pay, then yes, you do need to accept a lot of insurances.

Maggie: If you are in a more affluent area, and we happen to be in a more affluent area where people can pay for private services, it looks a little bit different. So we are currently in network with one insurance company. I will tell you that I've attempted to be in network with a couple of others, and the network is closed. And I'm not sure why. I think it might be the proximity to St. Louis. You know, if you look on Google Maps, it's only 20 miles away, but really takes 45 minutes to get there type thing.

Maggie: So I've attempted to be in network with other insurance companies, but haven't had any luck. So, you know, I opted to go with the insurance company that word of mouth led me to believe that they probably reimbursed the best. And I know that there's a few other in the area that just they don't reimburse well to the point where I would probably be losing money. And I was in network with another insurance company, which I ended up going out of network with because the reimbursement was so poor. Unfortunately just as a smaller business we can't possibly sustain that.

Maggie: So I'm just lucky that we're in an area that we have families that can afford private services and we can still stay competitive.

Kadie: Yeah. And I'm glad that you brought that up openly and honestly because reimbursement does matter. You know, you're doing a service. You care about children and their families. But you're also, like you said, you're starting a family. You are a provider to your family that's growing. So unfortunately, this is an area of concern that some insurances just don't reimburse well enough to sustain a business. So I'm glad that the private pay model is working out for you. And that does keep things fairly simple, I'm sure.

Maggie: It is a lot more simple. You know, it does. The private pay aspect of it helps. And the humanitarian side of me doesn't want to turn anybody away based on pay. But the business side says, no, you can't be losing money because nobody could successfully run a business doing that. So it's just kind of the nature of the beast.

Kadie: Exactly. Yes. And is that something that, is that hard to have conversations with families if you have to say, look, no, I don't take your insurance, but here's my rate? Does that ever hit you in the gut?

Maggie: It can be an uncomfortable conversation. I will tell you that now I'm much more comfortable disclosing my rate because I've done it so many times. But I think most practitioners, when they very first start out, are uncomfortable telling people what their private rate is, which is competitive with occupational therapy, with physical therapy. If you've ever had private counseling services, it's the same.

Maggie: And, you know, I've personally had to pay for services privately, and I haven't batted an eye. And yet when it was my turn to do it, I always felt uncomfortable, sort of disclosing, you know, what my rate was with regard to that. But there are certain insurance companies that there's just nobody in the area that I know takes that insurance. And so when a family calls, I can't even refer them to any other agencies in the area because I just know that nobody else is going to accept their insurance.

Maggie: And what was really disheartening for a matter of time was that the state of Illinois, when we didn't have a budget, was not reimbursing for a lot of the services. And so a lot of these families that were in dire need of therapy, nobody would pick them up because, you know, the state wasn't going to pay them back. And after a year of waiting on money from the state, a lot of these families just couldn't, they were being turned away.

Kadie: Oh my goodness. You make an exception for one and word gets out, then, you know, you become a charity service. So yeah, it's what you have to do. And especially as you're growing your family and you are, you're pretty close. So how far along are you now?

Maggie: 37 weeks.

Kadie: 37 weeks. And once baby comes, how long are you going to fully take time off if you are even capable of like stepping away?

Maggie: I know. I think that's, will I have a maternity leave? Not in the traditional sense. I will never be able to just take off weeks at a time without knowing what's going on. I will say that I'm really proud of the system that's in place right now. Everybody in my office has been just so wonderful about, we'll take care of this, we'll take care of this, we'll take care of this, that I have been able even the last month or two to kind of step back and really kind of get things, you know, ready at my house and make doctor's appointments and all of that.

Maggie: And so kind of the tentative game plan is to just go back when I'm ready, which I acknowledge might be two weeks, it could be six months. I'm just really not sure yet. Ideally, I think I would come back in more of a managerial sort of overseeing things so I could continue to facilitate growth.

Maggie: And you know, when you're first starting out your business, I was working insane hours. I mean, my first client was at 8 a.m. and then I was picking up clients as late as like 6:30 in the evening. And I don't want to do that anymore. So if I do come back, then I've kind of got the flexibility of, you know, this is kind of what I want it to look like, which to me is really the gift that my private practice has given to me. You know, I really had to kind of water it and nurture it and take care of it. And now it's really being very good to me at this time in my life. So I'm just going to give myself the grace of going back whenever I feel ready.

Kadie: That is amazing. I'm so happy for you. So your clients aren't like waiting for you. They have at this point taken on a new therapist. And if you decide you want more clients in the future, you might, or you might just manage your business.

Maggie: That's right. Exactly.

Kadie: Oh, that's so exciting. I'm so happy for you because once baby gets here, you might want to keep your hands in your business, but you're just going to want to stare at that face.

Maggie: Yeah. I sort of acknowledge that I don't know what it's going to be like, so I'm just going to go with it. If I'm cut out to be home a little bit more, then I'm going to do that. If I don't have it in me, then we will adjust accordingly. We're just going to take it as it comes.

Kadie: I could see you and your newest addition still hanging out at Metro East Therapy.

Maggie: Absolutely. I just bought my Moby wrap yesterday and he's coming in a sling and we're going to be up there. I don't know if I have it in me to just be at home and not knowing what's going on at the office.

Kadie: Yeah. Your private practice was your first baby and you want to make sure that it runs smoothly for sure.

Maggie: Exactly.

Kadie: So just a couple more things and then we'll wrap it up. What are your goals? What do you want it to look like continuing to grow?

Maggie: I always said that I never wanted to have a wait list. So to date, we don't have one. I think, unfortunately, that may happen because we're going to be out of space. It's going to be a space issue. We only have four offices in the current place that we're at. We were lucky enough that we were able to purchase the building that we're currently at. And that is really great because the commercial property, the rent is so expensive in our community that I would be paying a lot more than what the mortgage on the building is for a lot less space.

Maggie: So right now it comes down to a space issue. And so what I'm hoping to do is as the need is there, to potentially look into another space to grow us into. And I'm really looking to expand this dyslexia part of the business and scale it in a way that more people can access services. And so for me, that would look like hiring really skilled teachers to be able to work on reading with clients under my supervision and coaching. So the model would look a little bit different, but I could scale it a little bit more because there again is just such a need for these services and not enough providers. So that's kind of my next business venture. And I'm looking forward to kind of honing in on that while I take this leave.

Kadie: And it sounds like the need in our community and area is there. It's almost like you said, the space and getting enough providers. But if that weren't the issue as far as providers with experience that you would want, have you ever considered branching out into the teletherapy world for your business?

Maggie: Yeah. So I've talked about it on many occasions because, number one, there are rural areas north of where we are and even into Missouri. I have my Missouri license as well because we're right on the border. And a couple of my therapists are certified in Missouri and in Illinois. And I have talked about that. And my husband presses me on it quite frequently because he sees it as like this big, big business opportunity.

Maggie: You know, for me, it feels a little bit intimidating because I know that the platform would require sort of overhauling materials. And I guess I don't know quite what that would look like yet specifically with reading. But that has been something that I have tossed around for a very, very long time. And it's just going to be a matter of sitting down and really figuring out what it would need to look like.

Kadie: Exactly. Yeah. Well, it sounds like things are going super great right now. And I would love if you could share any words of encouragement for those listening who might also have aspirations of taking this leap into private practice.

Maggie: So I think for me, one of the biggest things that I was terrified of, and I think a lot of people share in this, is the financial aspect of it. Because you're much more vulnerable going into private practice. If you work in a school, you have your salary. You've got your nine-to-five job if you work in a hospital. But this is much different.

Maggie: And so for me, it required the ability to understand what my mindset was with money. And so I think if anybody is going to go into private practice and has those reservations about the money and where's it going to come from and how can I support my family, you're going to have to do a little bit of personal development on what does money mean to you. I mean, like for me personally, I discovered that money is an overwhelming sense of security for me. And so when I'm feeling anxious about something, I have to take a step back and really kind of understand why I'm feeling anxious and then kind of do a little bit of self-talk to be able to get myself out of whatever funk that is.

Maggie: And I think the other really critical part of being a business owner, it doesn't really matter what your business is, but finding your group of people that really support you. So Brene Brown has a couple of quotes that I really embody. She talks about, if you're not in the arena getting your you-know-what kicked, then I'm not interested in your feedback. And she talks about the cheap seats.

Maggie: And so for me, I have to take on the constructive criticism for the people that are in the arena with me. And I've got a few business mentors and I have a few people that aren't business mentors, but are more supportive of me as a human being. And those people are in the fight with me. But then there's people that are not in the same position as me and have tried to offer words of wisdom or criticism, sometimes unsolicited. And so you have to be able to not, okay, thank you, but acknowledge they're not where I am.

Maggie: So find your mentors. For me, I have business mentors, I have financial mentors, and then if you have a supportive person when you're just having a meltdown. So for me, I have an unbelievably supportive husband. And not everyone's spouse is as supportive when they start up a business. So if you have a peer or colleague or a friend or whatever that is, those are two things that I think are really important before you start up a business.

Kadie: I love that. And I love that quote. Well, thank you so, so much for giving us a little bit of insight about Metro East Therapy. That's all we have time for today. Is there anything else you wanted to add, Maggie?

Maggie: No. I shared with you privately, not live on this podcast, but I love talking about private practice. And anybody that wants to go into private practice, I'm happy to talk to anybody about that because I'm just so passionate about it because it has just been such a blessing for me. So I'm happy if anybody listens to this, if you would like to share my information, I'm more than happy to talk to anybody about it.

Kadie: Absolutely. I will provide Maggie's contact information in our description of the podcast. Thank you for listening to Clinic Chats. If you have a moment, please leave a five-star review and help other SLPs find our podcast. If you'd like to share your personal journey through private practice, please email kadie at clinicnote.com. That's K-A-I-D-E at clinicnote.com.